dyson, does john mccain hate susan rice? >> well -- >> i mean when he says she's not qualified and questions her intelligence, your thoughts? >> well, there's no question hate is used as a metaphor to talk about stern resistance and opposition. in that sense, of course, he's haiting on her. i'm not speaking personally as a human being, but it's more disturbing that despite her intelligence, the pedigree of her scholarly achievements and the way she's moved in several administrations to act in a very powerful fashion to represent her diplomatic community, what else can you conclude but the fact that he's trying to go after her because as karen said, she's a woman and black and given that they have not done very well, the republicans with this group, it seems pig headed for them to go after this particular woman who is the representative of the best possibility of american diplomacy being carried on in the absence of hillary clinton. i think we should be quite clear about that. >> the other thing, think about this. the preside